Make Money Online With A Dead Guy

March 5th, 2008 by Garry Conn | 46 Comments

It is very sad to see that there is a market for exploiting the common ignorance as well as the stupidity of people who want to make money online. Why did I title this post, Make Money Online With A Dead Guy? The reason is simple, if people actually believe that they can learn how to make money online from a child, they’ll believe anything, including that they can make money online with a dead guy.

The business of making money online is not what you’ve been lead to believe. If you fall into the category of being a person with an interest of making money online, you’re simply part of the element that allows the 1% of people who do make money online to make money online. In other words, with your hopes and dreams of learning how to make money online, you create a business that allows for people to exploit your ignorance in this interest.

Am I calling you stupid? No! However, I am asking that people who are inspired to learn how to make money online try to wise up a little bit. The business of making money online is mainly a group of people who try to convince people who want to learn into buying fake or bull shit products that claim to teach you how to make money online.

Every site I visit is identical, but carries a different web site name. Most all web sites carry the trend. They have a long and never ending page that scrolls for miles and miles and miles, packed full of big black text highlighted in yellow, coupled with about 100 testimonials of people who say how much this product has changed their life within 30 minutes. It’s all the same crap.

Blogs also follow the same trend. Two column design, larger header, directly below the header is a huge email form from Aweber that collects email addresses from the ignorant inspired person who wants to make money. The top of the sidebar is bombarded with 125×125 button banners that advertise products that claim how they can change your life and offer you financial freedom.

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Make money online with a 13 year old. Come on… whatever! People actually believe this garbage? Has anyone invested the time to read into the content on this blog? Like hell a 13 year old (now supposedly 14 years old) is writing this content. Sure, i guess it is possible, but NOT likely. Get real.

Even still, let’s just play the game and assume that a 14 year old kid is really writing content on the blog, if you are an active reader of this blog, is it helping you? You must be really scoring all the cash now after learning how to do it from a 14 year old kid.

Make Money Online With A Dead Guy! Learn how to make money online with a guy that has been dead and buried for over 25 years.

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If you see a web site that looks like the above screen shot, run away and don’t look back. Sites like this make you think they are selling products that they have developed while in reality they are nothing but affiliate based products that give them a commission off the sale.

The reason why they collect your email address is the simple fact that most people aren’t going to invest the time into unsubscribing and eventually they’ll send an email that will capture your attention enough to create a sale. Of course, when you make the purchase, it won’t help you one bit, but it will help them in their venture of making money online.

Make Money Online With A Dead Guy! Learn how to make money online with a guy who has come back to life for the soul purpose of teaching you how to make money online!

My Thoughts and Ideas On How You Can Make Money Online

Here are some random thoughts that will help you in your ventures of making money online. Most of these are things I am doing right now and are helping with paying the bills.

  1. Web Design: So many of you bloggers out there invest countless hours into learning how to design WordPress themes. Take what you have learned and open a local web design business that caters to residents in your town.
  2. Search Engine Consultation: Learning about blogging and WordPress, SEO and SEM almost go hand in hand with successful blogging. Most bloggers who are tied into the MMO niche are really excellent with SEO and SEM skills. Once again, provide this service locally packed up with web design services for local residents and business owners in your town.
  3. Choose a Niche and Stick With It: Choose a niche and create a blog and totally stick to it. It takes a lot of self motivation, drive and smart decisions to run a successful niche blog.
  4. Don’t focus on trying to make money: Attempting to make money with this niche blog during its early stages of development doesn’t work very well. Money can’t be made with out traffic. You can’t get traffic unless you have readers and you can’t have readers if your blog isn’t attractive and packed with content that is interesting to people.

All in all, just have common sense. Recognize the few elements that are needed to make money online. Traffic and a Product. That is really all it boils down to. Sure, you can waste money on eBooks that promise you the world. But when it’s all said and done, no eBook will give you traffic. Without traffic to your blog, your blog is dead.

Traffic happens to be the single most difficult thing to attain. Last year, I came up with the idea of mass producing a ton of blogs where each blog would score just a few bucks per day. While that continues to work well for me, it’s not really anything I feel proud about. I want more than that and have been slowly moving away from this type of Internet business. My newer projects have been developing full blown niche blogs where I build up my readership, Internet authority and PageRank.

I am much happier with building these type of blogs. Sites like The Airplane Blog and The Optical Blog are sites that I am truly proud of and invest time into developing them. Made for Money (MFM) sites are kinda lame. Granted, they do work, but there really isn’t any value to them.

I can tell you this, my MFM blogs have helped me a lot over 2007 and they continue to generate quite a bit of money for me so far in 2008. This income has been allowing me to invest time into developing sites that I truly enjoy owning. Taking my knowledge and skills with this business and helping people locally has helped quite a bit too in paying the bills.

My advice to you would be to back away from the whole MMO trend and just be yourself. Take what you know and apply it to a blog with a topic that you’re passionate about. Target traffic who have no idea about programs such as Kontera, Bidvertiser, ClickBank, etc. In due time when you develop a good level of authority, you can start to slowly introduce trusted products to your readers which can help you make money.

Another option is to get off your ass and start creating and promoting various advertisement packages on your site. There are thousands of advertisers who would be willing to pay you to advertise their business, product and service. It’s your job to contact them and be persistent. You can contact people yourself or hire someone to do it for you by paying them a percentage of the sale.

Make Money Online With A Dead Guy! Don’t believe everything you read or see. Many of the sites you visit are fake. They are posers, noobs, idiots and fakes who pretend to be someone they’re not.

With the sheer volume of other idiots in this world, people are able to make a little bit of money, some even make a lot. Ask yourself this question, where do you fall into place with this business of making money online?

Do you want to be yourself and provide an awesome blog that actually help people and eventually could gain the authority and popularity to where you could successfully sell products and provide private advertising?

Or do you want to create a web site or blog that exploits the fact that there are dumbassses in the world that believe they can learn how to make money online from a dead guy?

Or, perhaps you are the person who believes that you can learn how to make money online from a child and read these sites and buy all these bogus products?

Drop a comment, share your thoughts… call me at (931) 368-4120, phone lines are open 24/7. I am done blogging on GCDC for a few days. This post coupled with the comments should keep us all busy for a few days.

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BlogEntrepreneur Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 20:10:57 Comment #12132

:-)

Did you see the movie Better Off Dead?

I picture a horde of 13 year old paperboys descending on your house uttering “I Just Made 2 Dollars….click here to find out how.”

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 20:22:24 Comment #12133

That is one 80’s movie that I have not seen. But I know the plot and what you said is terribly funny. But you know what, it’s not just the MMO w/ 13yr old site… all the MMO sites are the same, they just have a different blog title. You know the deal. Fancy header graphic, two column blog with sidebar on the right packed full of 125×125 button graphics. Some of these style of blogs also have a three column footer….

 
febe Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 20:27:25 Comment #12135

I think a person should be wise enough to recognize which one is a fake ad. Be careful in choosing the products. Make sure they are reliable enough. Ask some friends if they had tried these items and see if they really get the result/s that they wanted.
Online money making is not bad. Just be responsible in using available resources. Do not abuse any of them.

 
BlogEntrepreneur Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 20:42:25 Comment #12137

Zing! You just went on vacation…you should be in a better mood.

My comment would make more sense if you had seen the movie. It’s a cult classic.

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 21:05:29 Comment #12138

I am in an awesome mood! What makes you think I am otherwise? I’ll be sure to order the movie and check it out.

 
Mack Goodman Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 21:16:03 Comment #12140

Garry,
I hear what you are saying, but as a newbie, I can see why people want to get some sites up making money. I was just considering a test by putting up a site that is more what you call MFM sites.. I would do this just top generate some income, and give me a sense that I can relax more and really build the main site I am working on the most.
Is that wrong for a new blogger?
I really appreciate your blog, sometimes I disagree with what you are saying, but you certainly know more than me, so I try to weigh what you say..

 
Owen Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 21:16:12 Comment #12141

When I saw this I thought that kid had died or something and I almost stopped reading.

The only dead guy I can think that you could make money off of would be in one of your other posts that I read today, hint The King.

Anyhow, I do think that not buying anything from MMO sites is a good idea. I never purchase anything from a MMO sites, I mean whats the point when you can find information all over the web?

However I did purchase MNF since I researched it and figured that the time I would invest in creating such a solution my self was not worth it.

But yea, I think you could make money with a dead guy.

 
Mark Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-5-2008 22:54:46 Comment #12144

Speaking as an “internet marketer” that started in November, I would have gladly paid for a “plan.” It is almost impossible to cut through all the crap. I read DP for 2 weeks before I even figured out who the “good guys” were — or that there were any good guys.

I think there is a real place for quality free eBooks from trusted sources with quality links to stuff you need — like web hosting and aweber.

 
John tighe Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 02:57:48 Comment #12149

Hi Garry,

LOL. I left this comment on your ‘How any ebooks does it take to screw in a light bulb?’ post. It seems i might have learnt something after all. Keep up the good work Garry……

I’m new to your blog and the whole ‘make money online’ circus.

I have to say, it’s nice to see someone truly willing to help the newbie. I was diagnosed with MS 4 years ago and i’m only now trying to build a new life (online). The problem is, as you mentioned, all the junk that’s out there.

However, in the few weeks i have been researching ‘make money online’ etc, i have developed a b******t detector for ebooks and other marketing products.

If the landing page has….

1 - A big red headline.
2 - It goes on for 30 pages.
3 - Bullet points are highlighted in yellow.
4 - It mentions the writer started off broke and living in a bucket (or whatever)
5 - Writer say thanks to his system he now makes $,1000,000,000.00 A day
6 - He/She says to buy the product before it - runs out, explodes or sprouts wings.

In truth the first 3 points tell you all you need to know - it’s crap, dont’t buy it!

Thanks for what you do Garry.

All the best - John

 
Hair Dye Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 04:44:22 Comment #12150

Your post has some good points and some bad points. I understand where your coming from in relation to buying crap to try and ‘better’ yourself but as a ‘noob’ myself, I have found a plethora of valuable and enlightening- FREE- information available on my travels in google land and even on DP, as someone mentioned above. I freely admit that in the last couple of months I have made a few static blogs specifically as MFM sites, as being a house-husband I have both the time and the dedication to try and make a few extra dollars, pounds, euros, whatever and try to make a successful foray into the mean world of internet marketing. By the way, none of my sites have anything to do with seo, internet marketing etc, as you can see by the anchor text for my name. I wouldn’t have a clue about those subjects anyway :)

 
J Spaulding Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 09:11:24 Comment #12153

After reading this post it seems to me like that 13 y.o. kid has a higher maturity level than you, Gary.

Who cares if he or anyone else is or isn’t making money? If you’re making money and you’re helping others do the same, does it matter?

I currently hold the #5 spot for make money online with Google, as he is #1, so he’s making at least 2 grand just through Adsense and just for that one ranking.

Is $2,000.00/month “making money online?”

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 09:24:27 Comment #12154

After reading this post it seems to me like that 13 y.o. kid has a higher maturity level than you, Gary.

Care to elaborate on that? Usually when I throw a dagger at someone there is a note attached as to why the dagger was thrown.

Who cares if he or anyone else is or isn’t making money? If you’re making money and you’re helping others do the same, does it matter?

It does matter when you and others mislead people into thinking that they can learn how to make money online. You make money off the people who want to learn. You trick them into buying garbage eBooks and trick them into investing money into programs that offer false hope and dreams that will never come true.

How does that compare to my maturity level? I think your site looks identical to many other sites that publish the same garbage and noise. You don’t help people, you use people. Throw all the stones and daggers you want at me. In the end, I am the one laughing to the bank and you’re not. You don’t make money online just like the many others that pretend to be a “Super Star” expert in the business.

Here is a quote from your about me page:

EZ-OnlineMoney.com is a Website dedicated to those who are looking for legitimate ways to make money online. Only honest, helpful advice is given and although the founder of this site does profit from advertising on the site, the intent is to honestly help others find what works for them in order to start making money online.

Your site advertises “Legitmate and Honest” ways to make money online yet digging inside the content of your site, there is nothing but BS propaganda that promotes two bit cheesy affiliate programs that score you a commission when some innocent person falls for the trap and buys. I can’t stand sites like yours. I am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are for yours. Again, one difference between me and you. I help people and you don’t. :)

 
David Cooley Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 09:57:46 Comment #12155

Here is an easy measuring device.

How much of the content on the site is ORIGINAL?

When all you have is Articles written by someone else, links to affiliates etc….then it seems the site goes from NICHE MARKET to SPLOG real quick.

 
J Spaulding Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 10:36:47 Comment #12156

Garry,

I’m not going to disect your reply, nor will I read it. I have better things to do.

It sounds to me like you’re trying to leverage the controversial style of blogging, but you’re not doing it very well.

Instead you’re sounding like an immature kid, who is full of jealousy and rage.

Good luck with everything you do bud. Sounds like you have alot to learn.

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 13:26:08 Comment #12159

I’m not going to disect your reply, nor will I read it. I have better things to do.

Ok Josh! Show me how to make money online. I would love to learn. I see that you have taken a lot of time to write original content, but who cares, it all leads to the same garbage (bogus affiliate links). That is how you make money. You make money off people who want to learn how to make money. You don’t show people how to do it. You trick people.

Good luck with everything you do bud. Sounds like you have alot to learn.

Perhaps, I should visit your site more often. What can you teach me Josh? I’ll be the student for the day. Show me something.

You’re a two bit affiliate marketer who claims to be some kind of glorified king and expert in the business of making money online.

Your web site offers absolutely nothing that can help me or my readers in learning creative and original ways to make money online.

Instead you’re sounding like an immature kid, who is full of jealousy and rage.

Interesting theory. I am not the one jumping on the defensive wagon and trying to justify the authenticity of my web site by throwing out that you rank #5 for a term in Google. The SERP for make money online is nothing more than a glorified badge that makes you look superior among the rest of your scam artists peers and little wanna be followers.

The truth of the matter, and John Chow admitted it himself last year, directly after getting penalized, is that the MMO SERP term in Google doesn’t get hardly any traffic anyway. It’s fluff… bogus, bunk… just like the propaganda that you’re publishing on your site. You don’t help people. You don’t care about others. It’s all about Josh and how much money Josh can make off other people.

The immature individual is the person who is pretending to be a 14 year old expert in Internet marketing and the fake little followers and individuals who come to this fake’s defense.

Anything else you want to say? I have all the time in the world. :)

 
BlogEntrepreneur Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 16:35:37 Comment #12162

This is fun.

I didn’t know Vic and Gary were the same guy.

Who’da thunk it.

:-)

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 17:01:42 Comment #12163

LOL… I control my mouth a little better! :)

Some people also think I am Matt Cutts in disguise.

 
Owen Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 22:08:37 Comment #12168

@Mark I read DP for about 4 hours before I realized that half of the information there is not very good. I’d just invest time / money into making sites instead of stupid e-books. Example 1 domain is less than the cost of 1 ebook. Researching how to promote this domain and spending time to develop this site will go alot further than just reading DP, WF and all the others.

 
Mark Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 22:34:33 Comment #12169

Seems obvious to me now, but it was really hard to get my hear around it back in November.

I do think that there is a place for information products — like hardcover books, ebooks could be valuable. For example, the SEOBook is supposed to be straight up and valuable — so I suppose that is an example from what I hear.

 
Dorothy Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-6-2008 22:59:19 Comment #12170

This is good advice! I was guilty starting out of trying to spread myself too thin, and had tons of blogs on subjects that I knew little to nothing about. I’ve made some money online but surely would have done better had I focused on one or two niches that I knew well.

 
John tighe Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 03:10:51 Comment #12175

RE: J Spaulding

Hi Garry,

Just thought i would throw my hat in the ring. One of the best MMO bloggers on the net, one that shows you eveything you need to know, does it for nothing, nada.

This person mentions you on his site as someone he respects for trying to do the best for your readers. He doesn’t mention Mr Spaulding. Like you he hates these crappy blogs/sites.

I have not mentioned his name out of respect for you, but if I say he is a bear of a man you will know who i mean.

All the best - John

 
make money blogging Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 05:10:21 Comment #12179

Well its friday morning Im having a cup’a'joe and just laughing my a$$ off. This is what I like to see PASSION in a niche.
Now why dont you tell us whats REALLY on your mind Garry. My take is that some unfortunate people try to take the lazy mans approach to everything in life because advertising tells them to. Then when it falls apart or doesnt work they dont have themselves to blame.
Creating a web property , finding niches, writing content, is WORK, that 4 letter word no-one wants to hear.
Unfortunately thats human nature. REALLY who wants to work. Seriously wouldnt it be so much easier to just do what ever it is you want to do like playing the PS3 or watching tv rather than working. This is where these guys fall in. Just click your mouse and bling blng your a millionaire.
ANyone can make money doing what ever it is they choose so long as they offer something of value in exchange for moolah. Thats just the way world works. Unfortunately where it gets skewed is in the whats being offered as value.
Sad commentary I know. Sheesh now I need another coffee..
Good points though garry.
Shoot from the hip!!
Chers and beers
shane

 
Caroline Middlebrook Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 06:03:53 Comment #12181

Hmm interesting thread, especially in the comments section. Garry you know that I love what you do as I have talked you on my blog quite a lot recently - you are one of the good guys who shows us how its done. However I also want to jump to the defence of both Carl and Josh here. Josh has been personally very helpful to me over the past few months not just with the stuff in his blog but personally, showing me around the Warrior forum, helping me out with article marketing and giving me some ideas for newsletters.

Also, I read Carls blog too and I think it’s pretty good. If I read your post correctly, it seemed to suggest that the content wasn’t written by a 13 (now 14) year old and that it was fake. That’s a pretty harsh accusation to make. Of course I don’t know know thw truth either way but I’d be inclined to believe him - some 13 year olds are pretty smart and write very well.

I hate all the usual marketing BS like long sales letters as much as you do (but I’m guilty of the standard blog theme hehe!) but I don’t think that ALL marketers are bad - there are a lot of good guys too and I think you’ve bashed a couple of them here unfairly.

 
Simonne Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 06:57:22 Comment #12185

Ha, ha! Those would be the stinkiest money ever somebody has done, be it online or offline :)

I was just thinking this morning to start a blog named: Make money online with Red Riding Hood and The Big Bad Wolf, when I found this post of yours. Now I’ll include also the dead Granny in the header :)

 
Flint Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 07:28:05 Comment #12186

Garry,

Great post… I feel getting traffic to a blog is simply a matter of applying yourself to get traffic within the first few months.

There are numerous ways of getting traffic for free, so every blog owner can make it with a bit of hard work.

Flint

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 11:05:06 Comment #12188

@ Caroline,

You know, its never hard for me to admit when I am wrong. A lot of people have trouble with that. Here is a common situation that happens to many bloggers. You write something, sleep on it, wake up and then say “Why did I post that?”

I agree with you about Josh. His first comment to me was this:

“After reading this post it seems to me like that 13 y.o. kid has a higher maturity level than you, Gary.”

I’ll admit, that upset me a little bit. What I should have illustrated is the fact that I am just frustrated with the niche. I think experts in this niche could do more justice for the good than what is going on right now.

People want to learn this business and I think its time that they are shown. This is the Internet, there is room for everyone. However, things are so darn shallow that everyone has to compete for the same freaking niche, which is a niche that makes money off the poor saps who want to make money.

Caroline says, “Josh has been personally very helpful to me over the past few months not just with the stuff in his blog but personally, showing me around the Warrior forum, helping me out with article marketing and giving me some ideas for newsletters.”

That is awesome… and that is exactly the things I want to hear! I’ll admit too, that Josh has quite a bit of excellent things that I didn’t see during my initial temper tantrum. The Easy SEO Report is one thing. It is a totally free and very helpful eBook that basically teaches the same stuff I already know and try to teach my own readers. * Thanks to CyberCoder for bringing that to my attention offline yesterday.

So, Josh is back in my “cool book” I should have handled that situation completely different. But, I have no regrets because if I hadn’t said what I said, that might have not lead to you saying what you said too. :)

Caroline says, “If I read your post correctly, it seemed to suggest that the content wasn’t written by a 13 (now 14) year old and that it was fake. That’s a pretty harsh accusation to make.”

I agree. Very harsh… is there a chance that I am wrong? Sure! Do I have a way to prove that the character of Carl Ocab is really an adult? No! So I will say this, I am just not buying into it. But, I shouldn’t contribute my own noise unless I know things are true. I just seriously doubt that the writer on that site is a freaking 14 year old kid. But… you never know! Even still, I ask my readers who read Carl’s blog: Is that site helping you learn how to make money? If the site does indeed help people, then just like you said about Josh… give me some testimonials.

I am not here to burn bridges, but I am here to call it like I see it. I think I should be a little more easy going when I do so, but we all live and learn.

My rant can be summarized in two paragraphs.

I don’t like the practice of making money on the expense of other people what innocently want to learn ways to make money. What I want to teach people is that there are independent solutions in this business that don’t require you to follow suite with the whole MMO niche movement of projecting yourself to be this Almighty Guru when you’re really not.

People can build blog or sites that are extremely useful for the general public, they can win respect and interest among their piers without having to resort to shady practices of collecting email lists and promoting products that promise false hopes and dreams.

Thanks so much for dropping that comment Caroline. I think we all can learn quite a few things from this post as well as the jewels within the comments.

 
Caroline Middlebrook Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 11:16:20 Comment #12189

@Garry, In a lot of ways I think we are on the same wavelength. I also get quite frustrated with the niche in general and I tend to bash a lot of the common practices on my blog, though perhaps not quite as colourfully as yourself :)

I think we both (as well as a handful of others) are trying to genuinely teach others what we learn through our blogs. I don’t know how much I am really helping anybody as I have yet to make any significant money myself but I hope to be of more help as I learn myself.

To be truly honest there are very few blogs that have actually helped me to earn money directly. I have learned a lot from many blogs, but much of what I have learned has been frilly stuff around the edges but some of that is useful too.

Anyway Garry, thanks for your reply, glad you cooled off a bit :)

 
David Cooley Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 11:33:38 Comment #12190

I agree with a lot of what has been said here, I also disagree with some. But overall, the summary Garry has in his last comment is it.

When I started making over a thousand dollars a month on the Internet I was thrilled and it is easy to get sucked into the trap of trying to sell every affiliate that fits your niche and has a good ROI, but I think it is more important to stay true to yourself.

Is the page and/or product you are pushing really of value, would you recommend it to your closest friend or family member?

And Garry, glad our conversation was of value, I know I always gain something valuable from them. More people should try talking to more people !

 
George Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 12:27:25 Comment #12192

I think there is both good and bad advice from all kinds of blogs on the internet (not just the MMO niche). Self help niche blogs have the same issue, so do others. Even proven experts in this field give different advice on some topics, because they aren’t giving proven, tested advice, they are giving their opinion. Things like “Adsense sucks” or “in-text advertising sucks” or “don’t use the color blue on your site”, or “blogrolls are great” are examples of opinions you might see given on an MMO niche blog.

I am not going to comment much about Carl. I have no idea if he is the real deal or not. I do personally have a nine year old son who is learning to program in C++ and some other programming languages, so I know kids can be smart enough to write a blog about MMO. In fact, my nine year old already knows some of the basics of marketing (it’s not rocket science). Determining whether Carl is writing about MMO or his father is writing about it would be really hard to prove/disprove without one or both of them coming forward with that information.

As for Garry being Vic or Matt Cutts, doesn’t everyone know Garry Conn is actually Joel Comm? Just check out the similarities for yourself…

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 12:44:46 Comment #12194

Ha Ha!!!!

George… I just KNEW that one was coming next. I almost said it myself and it’s quite funny too as Joel has said to me quite a few times how ironic our last names are very similar, we look similar and we are somewhat in the same line of business. That is funny, thanks for the laugh! :)

I think that is also way Joel shaved his face recently… LOL!!!

 
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Date/Time: 3-7-2008 12:50:07 Comment #12195

Joel,

I thought you would get a kick of that ;)

PS. I know more than one person who has multiple internet personalities, it’s kind of fun to watch. Would never give them away though… unless of course they asked me to do so.

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 13:11:30 Comment #12197

I know a few myself… if I had it to do over again, I wouldn’t be using Garry Conn dot Com. I would have been something like, Scott Farkas.

BTW… that name just came to me, but it is a name from a character in a classic movie, can anyone guess which movie (without Googling it!) lol

 
George Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 13:14:28 Comment #12198

Garry,

I would have done the same, there would be no mention of George Manty or my wife Jill on the web if I had to do things again. Live and learn…

 
David Cooley Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 13:36:17 Comment #12199

Garry & George,

I agree with that, using my real name CyberCoder has been an issue!

My Dad, MainframeCoder tried to warn me, but, you know how us kids are.

 
Mark Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 14:22:39 Comment #12203

This is all just a bunch of MARKETING CRAP.

Clearly, Garry made a JV deal with Josh to pick a fight over Carl as a way to promote the EasySEO report. Garry get’s 50% of the cover price on every download.

I see right through all of this.

Further, my theory is that Garry is actually Carl Ocab’s father, and that Garry knows the location of the missing Weapons of Mass Destruction.

:)

 
BlogEntrepreneur Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 16:26:14 Comment #12205

I still want my 2 dollars.

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 17:47:46 Comment #12207

Weapons of Mass Destruction? They’re not missing… government just hasn’t been looking in the right places. LOL!!!! (joking)

 
Mark Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 19:26:45 Comment #12208

Garry — what makes the avatars show up? Where are the coming from?
Mark

 
Mark Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 19:28:22 Comment #12209

You know — it’s funny. In Nov, JCDC was one of the first things that I found somehow. Scary. I could have ended up on the dark side (Luke, John is your father…[heavy breathing])

 
Garry Conn Wrote a Comment:

Date/Time: 3-7-2008 22:13:42 Comment #12211

For the avatars, visit http://www.gravatar.com

It takes less than five minutes to get your avatar to show up. :)

 
April Dennis Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-9-2008 01:22:48 Comment #12244

Weapons of Mass Destruction? What constitutes mass destruction? Our planes hitting our buildings killing our people? Sometimes when someone picks on you, you have to kick their ass!

 
Josh Spaulding Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 3-9-2008 13:14:05 Comment #12258

@ Garry - I don’t blame you for doubting the fact that a 14 y.o. kid writes that content, but some of the things you said, I thought were very harsh without having any hard facts. I’ve spoken with Carl a few times and I’ll be taking that juicy spot in the SERPS from him in the near future ;) I honestly believe he is who is says he is, but I do suppose your accusation could be true.

As for our nice conversation above, no hard feelings. I’ve written posts and made accusations in which I later regretted, so I’d be a hypocrite to hold this one against you.

I do disagree with your thoughts on products, or at least what I believe your thoughts to be. However, I can’t say that I blame you. There is so much scum out there in the Internet Marketing niche (completely different niche than the MMO niche) and the MMO niche that I honestly don’t blame people for thinking all IM or MMO related products are trash. While many are worthless articles bundled up in a zip file, not all are. Some of us choose to sell selective products that are actually very valuable. The sales page for “AMD” is admittedly hyped, but there are no lies!

@ Caroline - Thanks for the kind words :) I never have a problem helping people who I know will take my advice and run with it. You’re a very smart person who is going to go very far in this industry!

 
Neil Robertson Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 4-18-2008 06:41:08 Comment #13563

I would also like to speak up for Josh (the original comment was so extreme i think it needs more positive comment to balance it out!)

Josh’s advice is very good for the inexperienced like me and to date I have not paid a $ for it (sorry Josh) either directly or through any affiliate purchases. I particularly like the simplicity of his advice - as someone trying to get started in my spare time I need simple!

Now I suppose Josh’s nice-guy image could be an act, and he’s just playing the long game to get my money - but I don’t care. If it is an act, it’s so good it’s like the real thing anyway!

Neil

 
Josh Spaulding Wrote a Comment: Subscribed to comments via email

Date/Time: 4-18-2008 15:58:43 Comment #13586

@ Neil - Thank you very much for your kind words :) I’m glad I’ve been helpful to you!!

Since this post, Garry and I have gotten to know one another a little better and Garry is definitely one of the good guys.

We all make mistakes; Garry, myself and everyone else and I’ve grown to respect him. It’s still great to hear from others who respect what I do.

Thanks again

 
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