Why Do You Love and Love To Hate Google?
I am going to be out right honest. I could not do what I do without the assistance from Google. Anyone who wonders why I don’t do sponsored posts or sell paid links, that is part of the reason why. Another reason is for the simple fact that is screws people out of their natural and organic ranking. If someone is paying their way to the top of an organic ranking system it forces the links down from the other people who play by the rules. How is that fair?
Anyway, I am not going to rehash the topic. Everyone knows where I stand. But instead, I want to know why I find people who love to hate Google, but secretly love to love them? And what I mean by that is why do I find people who publish posts on their blogs bitching about losing their PageRank when they willingly promote programs that fall outside from Google’s webmaster quality guidelines?
Why do people bitch about it? The reason why you lost your rank is obvious. If it really bothers you, then play by the rules. If you don’t really give a shit about PageRank, then why bitch about it? I am confused, can someone throw me a bone and explain?
I make money online for the simple fact that I get a ton of traffic from Google. This is filtered traffic. What I mean by that, is Google weeds out the tire kickers and the people that just stumble into my pages aimlessly. When someone visits my web page about Pizza Hut coupons, guess what? They’re looking for Pizza Hut Coupons… It is no accident that they found my page about Pizza Hut coupons. That is the difference.
Can money be made on sites such as Garry Conn dot Com? Sure! But you’ll have to bust your ass to get popular and gain enough readers to where advertisers will be interested in advertising on your site directly. This doesn’t happen too often guys and gals.
So what are your plans? How do you want to make money online? Do you want to grow and build a social blog with the hopes of getting 10,000 RSS subscribers, or do you want to utilize WordPress and the powers of search engine marketing to funnel traffic into your WordPress powered “Website” and make money almost instantly?
Garry Conn dot Com could shut down tonight and have ZERO effect on my income (well, maybe a little lol!!). Can you say the same about your main blog? I am not trying to sound like a hard ass, but I am trying to communicate to you that you need to take the skill and knowledge that you have learned so far with blogging and roll these efforts into a niche site that will help ease the pain a little while you continue to slowly grow your main blog for social popularity (if that happens to be your goal).
Garry Conn dot Com is a pass time for me. Work comes first before this blog. This blog doesn’t make hardly any money. This blog is my poorest performing site among my fleet of others. Why? Because look at my traffic… my traffic are people like you who want to learn how to make make money. I hope you see where I am coming from. I am trying to motivate you to get up off your ass and take what you know and apply it to something that will work better for you.
If I haven’t pissed you off too bad, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Drop me a comment.
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people will always find something to bitch about. first timer here, thought i’d say hi before snooping about your older posts some more
Thank you for sticking with us Garry and keep motivating us with posts like these – I recently had an advertising offer, but when I mentioned it owuld have to abide by Google’s guidelines of nofollow links, it all went quiet!
Hopefully, adhering to these guidelines with benefit me in the end as I think I’m still broken permalink sandboxed right now
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The problem I have always had Garry, and it is the same problem I have reading sites like Courtney Tuttles is, and this is according to the big boys like Shoe, Google does not send alot of traffic to blogs, less then 10 % at best. Blogs send traffic to blogs period. If you hav a static page or site Google and there rules will work very well for you. Why people get pissed off when there rank drops is the amount you get paid for Paid Reviews or selling text link ads drops as well. It is funny, the people who run the companys that want you to seel PP or text link ads sell them based on rank full knowing that when google finds out, your done. If Google wants everyone to play by the same rules it is clear to me that they need to seperate static pages from blogs in there search engines. Why did they add a blog search when we, as bloggers don’t have a blog rank. But then again, with bloggers visiting bloggers and with hardly anyone clicking on ads (and I would like to ass you Garry, how often do you click on someones ads) it almost seems to be a waiste of time worrying about it. I started my first blog YWG fully knowing it was never going to make money or enough to do anything with, it was more of a learning tool for me to find out what I wanted to do.
Sorry for the typo’s up there I just woke up.:)
Garry: “I am confused, can someone throw me a bone and explain?” How about NO, Garry! (LMAO) I was one of the ones who bitched (but not very loudly) because I knew it would draw traffic. How’s that for a reason?
Collin: Shoemoney is a self-admitted liar. He throws those numbers out to confuse you. Those numbers may be true for a socially popular blog like his, but you have to look at the total volume of traffic he’s using as the base figure. I can tell you right now, my main blog, which isn’t monetized well at all, still gets 80% of the traffic from Google.
@ Collin,
Let’s try to break these down into points:
Make no mistake, ShoeMoney does just as well in the SERPs as any healthy blog. Here is a link to his most recent post already indexed and searchable in Google. ShoeMoney very well may be correct in the fact that only 10% of his traffic come from Google. Keep this in mind, his blog is very very popular. So 10% Google traffic from his site would be the equivalent of 95% Google traffic for yours.
Now… stay with me here. John Chow’s site, is totally not doing well in the SERPs. very unhealthy site. I am not here to say why, because I don’t know… I have no why to prove why his site sucks in the SERPs but I have my suspensions. Here is a long LONG tail exact phrase search for his most recent post that has been indexed but doesn’t pull up in the SERPs.
Now having that said… do either pro blogger need or depend on SERPs traffic? No… but make no mistake, Shoe gets a ton of Google traffic while John Chow does not. At least that is from my brief scan based off their most recent and indexed posts. I can look into this in further detail if needed. However, I am about 90% sure of my findings as is.
Next point to address:
and…
Ok. And wouldn’t that be a wake up call for you to stop selling paid links and doing sponsored and paid reviews that include links that pass PageRank? Secondly, wouldn’t that be an even MORE of a wake up call since you obviously have studied and understand Google’s webmaster guidelines?
Next point to address:
Collin, I respect that you might not be up to speed in some aspects of terminology. First thing, some blogs are static pages. Self hosted Blogger.com accounts does not produce dynamic pages. You set up your domain name and bring your own web hosting and configure your Blogger.com dashboard to transfer your content via FTP. These are static HTML pages that are no different that pages that were published in the mid to late 90’s.
You said that if Google was to expect everyone to play by the rules, than they should be required to seperate static pages from blogs. If that is the case, then would it be safe to assume under these circumstances that Google would no longer consider Blogger.com as blogs?
Now, with that being said and clarified. How do dynamic pages versus static pages even relate to the situation of people abusing Google by selling paid links or sponsored posts that have links that pass PageRank. That doesn’t make sense.
Next point to address:
Blog search isn’t anything physical. The results in Google BlogSearch have nothing to do with the Google Index. It is a pinging service that syndicates content and then uses their Google search technology to produce relevant results to the end user.
Next point to address:
If you build a blog that targets the interest of people such as myself, then no… you’re not going to make much money from PPC advertisement campaigns. I have addressed that in many posts. If you want to make money online by harnessing the power of WordPress coupled with the powers of search engine marketing dueled with the power found within your natural ability to create and publish compelling, creative and uniquely written content, then you can easily launch a blog or a website that targets a niche audience who are not as blind to the ads and actually find them useful. There is money to be made in PPC. You just need to think more like a brick and mortar business owner. To clarify the situation, this is exactly what I do for a living, so I would know.
I think you are frustrated and I can see why. This business and the mystery within can be very hard to unravel and piece together.
If you want to make money online just like John Chow and ShoeMoney, then you’ll need to do a lot of offline work more so than online work.
if you want to make money online like Garry Conn… then take all my advice that I have given to you and put it into practice.
Moving on….
@ RT,
That’s can be what blogs are for… venting personal frustrations. However, if you are personally upset that you have lost your PageRank (again, I don’t know I haven’t followed your blog too closely up until a few days ago) you have to consider Google’s Webmaster Guidelines. One if you participated in the many programs that go against their standard, then you really have no room to complain. You took a gamble and you got busted… caulk it up and move on… If PageRank is important to you, then play by the rules.
Now… here is another thing to consider that many people fail to do. My PageRank a few months ago was PR5. Since that time it has dropped down to PR4. Many people who play by the rules complain about losing their PageRank and commonly say, “Man, I played by the rules and STILL lost my PageRank” or “Man, I played by the rules and my site is STILL an PR0″. In other words, many people feel like their PageRank should be higher than what it actually is. Many people feel like they deserve to have a higher PageRank than what appears.
Why? Google’s ranking system isn’t based off what people “Feel” their ranking should be. It is based off many factorizations that give the total number. To get the best overall search visibility there are three element that you need to concern yourself with. Text, Links, and popularity. Text would be content that has searchable keyword phrases that get recorded into the index with your page. Links would be your pages that link to other relevant pages based off the same topic. Either internal pages or external pages. Popularity would be gaining links from other sources and pages that point back to you and or your individual pages.
PageRank and the Google algorithm are actually quite a beautiful thing. It is about the most perfect humanly built artificial intelligence I have ever studied in my my life.
@ Everyone who reads this:
Education, Skill and general understanding of how search engines work do not come over night. I will never admit or claim to be an expert. However, I will tell you this, I dedicate many hours of every day into studying search engines and I invest quite a bit of time into reading.
If interested here are two books that I would recommend that you purchase. If you purchase and read these two books you will begin your journey into having a better understanding with search engines and how you can use them for their intended purpose to allow you to make money.
Search Engine Visibility – Author Shari Thurow
Googlepedia – Author Michael Miller
* Here is a link where you can read the entire 420+ page book online. However, I would ask my readers to support the author in his journey in helping others understand more about Google and buy the book.
* * I know this comment was long… but I have invested the time into writing it because I care to help people in their online ventures and feel it is very important to get people pointed in the right direction.
“I am confused, can someone throw me a bone and explain?†How about NO, Garry! (LMAO) I was one of the ones who bitched (but not very loudly) because I knew it would draw traffic. How’s that for a reason?
The first part was a reference to Dr. Evil, “throw me a bone”. The second part was that I never got upset. I was curious and read the guidelines (that have long since been changed) AFTER I was penalized. Then I wrote scathing stuff because I knew people would come by and read it. They did. Yeah, I got dropped to a PR of 0, but I’ve since been reconsidered and put back up to a 4.
Part of the reason some people dropped by a point is because a lot of the links pointing to them dropped in value, and they didn’t consider that part of the equation. I think it’s the only reason a lot of my healthy pages are still sitting at 4 instead of being higher.
I am sorry RT, I did catch the humor…
The comments in this post have inspired the post that will be publishing tonight.
* Just a reminder to everyone, I publish one main article per day. They go live every night at 1201 AM CST.
Wow Garry, your respone to me was almost bigger then your post. But with all do respect to you if your eggs were not only in the Google Basket how much farther ahead would you be. From where I am sitting you should be a lot farther after a year being active with this blog alone. Don’t get me wrong either I would love to pull in off my site what you do in yours and one day I will. I like your blog which is why I read it, you have a different stand point then most others which gives me something new to chew on.
To address the point of me being frustrated, I am not. 5 months ago when I started blogging I didn’t even know what a blog was so from that stand point my site is doing great but you still have to keep in mind one small thing, with all the sites a person see’s over the period of a month it is hard to tell what really is true and what is not. And I still think selling private ads in a sidebar that displays an image is no different then selling text link ads or doing a paid review. I just can’t see the difference.
Collin, first off, thank you for the inspiring comment back to me. I appreciate that.
Let me address the above by saying that my eggs are not 100% in the Google basket. My eggs are three kids and a wife whom are very hungry and require many many things. What you assume to be something that contains a large percent in a basket is actually something that I consider to be my day job.
A day job is something the supplies a steady income for a developing and growing family. My day job comes first and for most before anything else.
With that being said, I do have plenty of free time due to the level of income I generate for myself. This allows me a lot of time to better myself and develop new business concepts and developments (which I have many in the works and quite a few in operation). GCDC, I must remind you and everyone else, is a personal blog for me. What you see here is not an example of how I make money online.
While there are elements found on this blog that could easily lead someone to believe otherwise, there also remains many elements that could show differently (i.e. low feedburner subscription numbers). GCDC is a hobby site for me, it is a dream that is slowly being built. And that dream is to host and harness one of the most popular blogs in the blogosphere. Slowly I will get there, I have no doubts. In the mean time, I really do enjoy the ride on the wave I surf on now. There are better waves to surf on and I see them coming from the distant horizon; however, unlike many, I am very patient and I wait for the perfect wave to build the desired momentum for the ideal ride. It will come and in the mean time, I enjoy very much doing one of the things I know best.
Stay tuned, you’ll like tonights 1201 post. Thanks again for the inspiring comment.
Well Garry I have asumed something was wrong with you or you were very busy as your posts as of late have been smaller then the norm. I have been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get you to open up more other then talking about your ass ads which I may remind you, I can not find your address anywhere to send you my gitch.
Jesus sorry bro that still is funny shit.
On a different note how is (BF) doing for you anyways.
I fully understand what you mean by your “day job” as I too am striving to unlesh ne side of me that will provide a different type of lifestyle for my family. Remember I have a 6200 dollar engagment ring on layaway I have not put anything on in a long while and a girlfriend who is starting to say…………..HURRY UP………….as you are well enough aware I am a thinker, when I need to learn something I do and while I learn I think of ways to make an impact. I have achieved huge goals in my real life profession and it is time to do the same here online.
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